Buffet Crampon Serial Number Finder



Buffet: Rare 1965 Buffet Crampon R13 Professional Clarinet R13 (Serial Number: 86573). African Blackwood. Nickel-plated keys. Not played in 20 years. £750 See photos. 0 London e-mail: Buffet: Buffet Crampon Paris B flat Clarinet. Took me up to Grade 6. Good condition but has not been played for a while so would need a service. Buffet Crampon, 5 rue Maurice Berteaux 78711 Mantes-la-Ville – France The instrument transport to the repair location and its return are made at the sole risk of the client. As a consequence, costs and risks for loss or damages during transports are not covered by the contractual guarantee.

When I started researching the history of F.E. Olds and Son about 35 years ago, there was very little known about the early years of this company. I interviewed several former employees but was unable to get any specific dates of model introductions much less exact serial numbers. With the little information that I had and making a few guesses, I put together a few serial numbers with dates. When I got two pre-war catalogs I made guesses as to the dates that they were published. When others became interested in Olds history they added to what I had done. Unfortunately, my guesses were off by several years.

These were all honest attempts at adding to our knowledge, but unfortunately my early errors were magnified rather than minimized. This became more apparent when Dale Olson found out that fellow Olds alumni, Howard Wilson had an archive of photos and information from the factory that he saved when it was being thrown out. This included two log books with production or shipping records of the earliest Olds trumpets and cornets. I decided that we were overdue for a careful look at all the data that we had. I put together all of the relevant information from Dale Olson as mentioned, Alan Rouse of Olds Central, Eric Hamlin of The Olds Register and known catalogs in various collections. The following is what I have come up with. Please contact me with any additions and corrections.

Buffet Crampon Clarinet Serial Number Lookup

For now, The Olds Register, is not allowing additional entries, but it contains a wealth of information as it is.

Some known dates stated below may be production or shipping dates and others are sales dates. Some are guesses based on models shown in catalogs, using earliest known examples. The rest are guesses based on rational analysis of production increases. The catalog that we previously dated 1930 or 1931 is after 1933 based on reference to Radio City Music Hall which opened that year. The catalog that was previously thought to be about 1930 (because I had guessed that a slightly later catalog was about 1932) is actually after the 1935 patent (applied and granted that year) covering the fluted trombone slide tubes that are introduced therein. Another catalog is actually dated 1939 and shows the Radio model cornet but still does not introduce the Super Recording trumpet and cornet.

The Olds trombones had a separate series of numbers that started in the ‘teens and were higher than those of the trumpets and cornets through the 1930s and 1940s (about 10,000 by 1938). According to Olds employee, Don Agard, who was there at the time, all Olds brass instruments used a single series starting with 100,000 in 1953.

Please let me know of any other data that will increase the correctness of this list. An early 1945 date would be especially useful. The last date below is based on Uan Rasey's memory of getting his Recording model trumpet during his first year at MGM. Also, I know that the Recording cornet was redesigned in January of 1948 but the earliest that we know of so far is 53,871 and I'm guessing that it was made a year or so later and we will find earlier examples in the future.

The second list here is a serial number list from 1952 until the end of production was provided by Olds in the 1970s and has been included in the Allied Supply catalog since then is still believed to be completely accurate.

Buffet Crampon Clarinets

Buffet Serial Numbers

Serial Numbers breakdown

Around 1950 Buffet adopted a new model identification of
“No1” or “NO1”. This coincided wth the polycylindrical bore
introduction. Even though the R13 was officially introduced in 1955
some versions of it apparently existed beforehand, though 1955 was the
official final production design.

The Current code break is like the following:

BC1131-2-0 broken down as BCaabb(c)-x-y

“aa” may contain 11 (for Bb or Sib in french), 12 for A or
La, 15 for Eb or Mib, 17 for F, plus other code desgnations.

“bb” specifies the model of R13. “31” is the R-13,
02 for the E13, 11 for RC, 12 for the RC (possibly 444hrz, need
clarification), 23 for the Bassett, 83 for the Prestige RC
Bass to low Eb, 93 for the Pretige Bass to Low C, plus other designations.

“c” is optional and used to designate G for Greenline, L
for the optional LH Eb lever.

“x” specifies the keywork plating such as “02” or “2” for
silver plating and 5 or 05 for nickel keywork

“y” is used to specify the pitch. “0” for 440, 2,
for 442, 4 for 444. If this is not designated then it defaults to
440.

1825-1885no records
18851A-408A
1886409A-999A
1886A1 – A886
1887A887-A999
B1 – B999
1B – 417B
1888498B-999B
1C – 999C
C1 – C300
1889C301-C999
D1 – D999
1K5211D-348D
1890349D – 999D
E1 – E999
1E – 316E
1891317E – 999E
F1 -F999
1 F-190F
1892191F – 999F
G1 – G999
1G – 58G
189359G – 999G
H1 – H999
1H -1 84H
1894185H – 999H
I1 – I665
1895I666 – I999
1I – 999I
J1 – J617
1896J618 – J999
1J – 999J
K1 – K514
1897K515 – K999
1 K – 999K
L1 – L561
1898L562 – L999
1L – 999L
M1 – M590
1899M591 – M999
1M – 999M
N1 – N440
1900N441 – N999
1N – 999N
O1 – O521
1901O522 – O999
1O – 999O
P1 – P999
1P – 374P
1902375P – 999P
R1 – R999
1R – 404R
1903405R – 999R
S1 – S999
1S – 999S
T1 – T40
1904T41 – T999
621T – 999T
U1 – U999
1U – 81U
190582U – 999U
V1 – V999
1V – 751V
1906752V – 999V
X1 – X999
1X – 999X
Y1 – Y840
1907Y841 – Y999
1Y – 999Y
Z1 – Z999
1Z – 812Z
1908813Z – 999Z
1A2 – 1A999
2A1-999A1
1B1 – 1B999
B21 – 60B1
19131H501-1H999
2H1 – 999H1
1I2 – 1I999
2I1 – 413I1
1914414I1 – 999I1
41J2 – 1J999
2J1 – 224J1
1915225J1 – 999J1
1K2 – 1K341
19161K342-1K999
2K1 – 460K1
1917461K1-999K1
1K2 -1K521
19181K522-1K999
2L1 – 661L1
1919662L1 -999L1
1M2 – 1M800
19201M801-1M999
2M1 – 999M1
11N2 – 1N515
19211N516 -1N999
2N1 – 999N1
1O2 – 1O193
19221O194 -1O999
2O1 – 692O1
1923693O1 -999O1
1P2 – 1P999
2P1 – 536P1
1924537P1 – 999P1
1R2 -1R999
1R1 – 226R1
1925227R1 – 999R1
1S2 -1S876
19261S877 – 1S999
2S1 – 999S1
1T2 – 1T508
19271T509 – 1T542
19281 – 2500
19292501 – 4999
19305000 – 7499
19317500 – 9999
193210000 – 12500
193312501 – 15000
193415001 -18000
193518001-20000
193620001 – 22000
193722001 – 24000
193824001 – 26000
193926001 – 270001943 – the two LH side spatula keys on separate posts
194527001 – 28000
1945 -1957

about 3000 per year

about 3000 per year (SNs are approx)
1946 – 28001 – 30500
1947 – 30501 – 33000
1948 – 33001 – 35500
1949 – 35501 – 38000
1950 – 38001 – 40500
1951 – 40501 – 43000
1952 – 43001 – 45500
1953 – 45501 – 48000
1954 – 48001 – 50500
1955 – 50501 – 53000
1956 – 53001 – 55500
1957 – 55501 – 58834

1955 – official production of the R-13

195858835 – 59143
195959144 – 62457
196062458 – 65956
196165957 – 68717
196269718 – 75319
196375320 – 78093
Apparently the most wanted Buffets are from the range
83k to 200k (1965 to 1979)
1964 to 196678094 – 93203
To the right I calculate out and average production per year.
1964 = 78094 – 83130
1965 = 83131 – 88167
1966 = 88168 – 93203
196793204 – 99331
196899332 -105617
1969105618-114416
1970111417-117747
1971117748-126209
1972126210-133903
1973133904-143517
1974143518-153323
1975153324-163567
1976163568-173826
1977173827-183901
1978183902-191872
1979191873-201531
1980201532-210652
1981210653-221260
1982221261-234695
1983234696-250371
1984250372-266396
1985266397-277482
1986277483-292267
1987292268-302623
1988302624-312699
1989312700-324769
1990324770-
Below are approximations taken from the Buffet-Crampon
website which allows serial number searches
325,000 Dec 15, 1989
350,000 Oct 17, 1991
400,000 May 15, 1995
450,000 Sept 16, 1998
500,000 June 24, 2002
550,000 Nov 7, 2005 (or maybe July 11)
600,000 noting returned
It seems as though they have a very long lay over for
christmas and new years holidays. 12/15 – 1/15 where no serial
numbers exist.
2003 – 512000512000 is Dec 12, 2003

512500 is Jan 27, 2003 …
yes a later serial number of 500 yields nearly 12 months earlier

512500 –
2005538900
4/18/2005545021

Between 1968 and 1974 Buffet also made the Super Dynaction Bb clarinet.
Few of these are known in existance though they seem to have a low demand
due to their jazz heritage.

Evette Master models with the cutout under the RH crow feet are the
identified R-13 rejects.

Clarinet

Approximately 1990 Buffet changed their lineup.

Buffet Crampon Serial Number Finder Tool

Pre-1990

Pro to Beginner: R13 (Pro) – C12 (Intermediate) – E45
(Intermediate) – E11 (Beginner) – B12 (Beginner)

Post 1990

Pro to Begginer: R13 (Pro) – E13 (Intermediate) & C12 (conservatory
intermediate) – E12 (Intermediate) –
E11 (Beg) – B12 (Beg)

Buffet Crampon Serial Number Finder Gps

C-13 (aka International)
is the equivalent to an E-11 but it was manufactured as a “private brand”
for another US company

Buffet E-13 Clarinets

Buffet Crampon Clarinet

Serial
number
Year of
make
Notes, pics
10109-16377

1961-1966

16378-23007

1966-1969

23008-296231969-1973
29624-321671973-1975
32168-428031975-1977
42804-490921977-1979
49093-565361979-1981
56537-626841981-1983
62685-701911983-1987

Buffet Harmony Clarinets

Serial
number
Year of
make
Notes, pics
19506-195781950
19579-196381951
19639-196801952
19681-197811953
19782-199651954
19966-200911955
20092-201541956
20155-202371958
20238-204011959
20402-205021960
20503-205111961
20512-206921962
20693-207751963
20776-208641964
20855-209111965
20912-210541966
21055-212091967
21210-213581968
21359-214321969
21433-215001970
21501-215871971
21558-216271972
21628-217021973
21703-217961974
21797-219531975
21954-219991976
22000-221141977
22115-222331978
22234-223501979
22351-224251980
22462-225351981
22536-226921982
22693-228591983
22860-230591984
23060-232741985
23275-234621986
23463-236191987
23620-238751988
23876-241901989
24191-245061990
24509-252211991
25222-260771992
26078-267341993